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		<title>By: th</title>
		<link>http://guyinthechair.com/2010/08/advanced-text-layout-in-tinytlf/comment-page-1/#comment-1228</link>
		<dc:creator>th</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 15:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi! 

TinyTLF seems to be cool and I would like to use it in some projects. But, I have problems to start using it. I downloaded zip form github, but how I can add it into flex project?

Do I have to somehow build it or what? Is there any tutorial on sample how to get started.

Hope someone can give me little help!

Regards,

th</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi! </p>
<p>TinyTLF seems to be cool and I would like to use it in some projects. But, I have problems to start using it. I downloaded zip form github, but how I can add it into flex project?</p>
<p>Do I have to somehow build it or what? Is there any tutorial on sample how to get started.</p>
<p>Hope someone can give me little help!</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>th</p>
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		<title>By: Gil</title>
		<link>http://guyinthechair.com/2010/08/advanced-text-layout-in-tinytlf/comment-page-1/#comment-1184</link>
		<dc:creator>Gil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Nov 2010 18:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This looks great. However I have a few questions:
1) Does TinyTLF support RTL/BIDI text? (Hebrew, Arabic etc.)
2) All the examples with links allow the text to be selectable. Is it possible to allow links on a non-selectable text?
3) Can TinyTLF work for Flash-based projects?
4) I haven&#039;t managed to run a single example of the tests you have provided. I am using FlashDevelop and it constantly gives me errors (sometimes missing imports, sometimes the font embedding is missing an attribute etc.). Can you provide a complete working Flash-based download, please?

Thanks in advance!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This looks great. However I have a few questions:<br />
1) Does TinyTLF support RTL/BIDI text? (Hebrew, Arabic etc.)<br />
2) All the examples with links allow the text to be selectable. Is it possible to allow links on a non-selectable text?<br />
3) Can TinyTLF work for Flash-based projects?<br />
4) I haven&#8217;t managed to run a single example of the tests you have provided. I am using FlashDevelop and it constantly gives me errors (sometimes missing imports, sometimes the font embedding is missing an attribute etc.). Can you provide a complete working Flash-based download, please?</p>
<p>Thanks in advance!</p>
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		<title>By: Kris</title>
		<link>http://guyinthechair.com/2010/08/advanced-text-layout-in-tinytlf/comment-page-1/#comment-1173</link>
		<dc:creator>Kris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 08:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Source link is broken. Its still in google cache so i doubt its been down long.
This project is great stuff, keep it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Source link is broken. Its still in google cache so i doubt its been down long.<br />
This project is great stuff, keep it up.</p>
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		<title>By: Tweets that mention //the blog of Paul Taylor/ site: Advanced Text Layout in Tinytlf -- Topsy.com</title>
		<link>http://guyinthechair.com/2010/08/advanced-text-layout-in-tinytlf/comment-page-1/#comment-1006</link>
		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention //the blog of Paul Taylor/ site: Advanced Text Layout in Tinytlf -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2010 09:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Gilles Guillemin, Simon Bailey. Simon Bailey said: Had shamefully missed Paul Taylor&#039;s tinyTLF http://bit.ly/aXS88o http://bit.ly/dDp0Nc and http://bit.ly/bsrTV4 - (via @gillesguillemin) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Gilles Guillemin, Simon Bailey. Simon Bailey said: Had shamefully missed Paul Taylor&#039;s tinyTLF <a href="http://bit.ly/aXS88o" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/aXS88o</a> <a href="http://bit.ly/dDp0Nc" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/dDp0Nc</a> and <a href="http://bit.ly/bsrTV4" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/bsrTV4</a> &#8211; (via @gillesguillemin) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Taylor</title>
		<link>http://guyinthechair.com/2010/08/advanced-text-layout-in-tinytlf/comment-page-1/#comment-965</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 13:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope, editability isn&#039;t a requirement I&#039;ve put on the roadmap. I have plans to release something later, but it&#039;ll likely be a commercial component or exist in an enterprise library of some sort. I&#039;ll have more details at my 360&#124;Flex presentation next week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope, editability isn&#8217;t a requirement I&#8217;ve put on the roadmap. I have plans to release something later, but it&#8217;ll likely be a commercial component or exist in an enterprise library of some sort. I&#8217;ll have more details at my 360|Flex presentation next week.</p>
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		<title>By: Gireesh</title>
		<link>http://guyinthechair.com/2010/08/advanced-text-layout-in-tinytlf/comment-page-1/#comment-964</link>
		<dc:creator>Gireesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 13:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, This is pretty good.  I wanted to use this in my project.  Do you have an Editor for this ? Like the demo editor provided by Adobe ? I am looking for a Rich Text Editor to compose this kind of content.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, This is pretty good.  I wanted to use this in my project.  Do you have an Editor for this ? Like the demo editor provided by Adobe ? I am looking for a Rich Text Editor to compose this kind of content.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Taylor</title>
		<link>http://guyinthechair.com/2010/08/advanced-text-layout-in-tinytlf/comment-page-1/#comment-722</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 16:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The column sizing you&#039;re talking about is less of a requirement on the core framework, and more of a requirement on the component developer. I&#039;ll eventually give more love to the components package once I&#039;m done developing extensions and gestures.

Editing likely won&#039;t ever make it in. Not because it&#039;s impossible, or even particularly difficult, but because it&#039;s tedious and time consuming. I just can&#039;t spend time on it unless someone&#039;s willing to pay for it. Not to say that editing in tinytlf won&#039;t exist, but if it does, it&#039;ll likely be in a commercial component or package of some sort. What can I say, I&#039;ve gotta eat.

There&#039;s nothing stopping you from writing editability into tinytlf yourself. Tinytlf gestures make it really simple to capture all the necessary interactions, then activate the proper editing behaviors. The bulk of the work really that involves manipulating FTE ContentElements and TextBlocks. That&#039;s the tedious part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The column sizing you&#8217;re talking about is less of a requirement on the core framework, and more of a requirement on the component developer. I&#8217;ll eventually give more love to the components package once I&#8217;m done developing extensions and gestures.</p>
<p>Editing likely won&#8217;t ever make it in. Not because it&#8217;s impossible, or even particularly difficult, but because it&#8217;s tedious and time consuming. I just can&#8217;t spend time on it unless someone&#8217;s willing to pay for it. Not to say that editing in tinytlf won&#8217;t exist, but if it does, it&#8217;ll likely be in a commercial component or package of some sort. What can I say, I&#8217;ve gotta eat.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s nothing stopping you from writing editability into tinytlf yourself. Tinytlf gestures make it really simple to capture all the necessary interactions, then activate the proper editing behaviors. The bulk of the work really that involves manipulating FTE ContentElements and TextBlocks. That&#8217;s the tedious part.</p>
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		<title>By: Benny</title>
		<link>http://guyinthechair.com/2010/08/advanced-text-layout-in-tinytlf/comment-page-1/#comment-719</link>
		<dc:creator>Benny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 13:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well my wishes come down to all features required to build something like the Times Reader 2.0 which was build by extending/rewriting parts of TLF 1.0. (https://timesreader.nytimes.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/AppLogin?storeId=10001&amp;catalogId=10001)

The Times Reader shows the pagination I am after. You&#039;ll see that the columns fit the current page height and width and the number of columns or the height of the columns adepts to the new dimensions when the container is resized. I think this is an essential requirement for columns to be the most useful because the user will never ever have to scroll from the bottom of a long column to the top of the next. Instead all columns on a (dynamic sizable) page can be read without scrolling and when the last column is read the reader simply requests the next page. 

What plans do you have for editing. Is it on your road map for the 2.0 release? What time frame do you have in mind for that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well my wishes come down to all features required to build something like the Times Reader 2.0 which was build by extending/rewriting parts of TLF 1.0. (<a href="https://timesreader.nytimes.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/AppLogin?storeId=10001&#038;catalogId=10001" rel="nofollow">https://timesreader.nytimes.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/AppLogin?storeId=10001&#038;catalogId=10001</a>)</p>
<p>The Times Reader shows the pagination I am after. You&#8217;ll see that the columns fit the current page height and width and the number of columns or the height of the columns adepts to the new dimensions when the container is resized. I think this is an essential requirement for columns to be the most useful because the user will never ever have to scroll from the bottom of a long column to the top of the next. Instead all columns on a (dynamic sizable) page can be read without scrolling and when the last column is read the reader simply requests the next page. </p>
<p>What plans do you have for editing. Is it on your road map for the 2.0 release? What time frame do you have in mind for that?</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Taylor</title>
		<link>http://guyinthechair.com/2010/08/advanced-text-layout-in-tinytlf/comment-page-1/#comment-712</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 22:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Benny,

&lt;blockquote&gt;content editing&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Editing is a doozy. I&#039;ll have more of an explanation later, but it&#039;s probably not going to be in 1.0.

&lt;blockquote&gt;columns that can be viewed per page&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Can you elaborate on this? A paginating textfield? Interesting.

&lt;blockquote&gt;columns that can be balanced&lt;/blockquote&gt;
This requires a second layout pass, which I&#039;ve been considering adding... basically, before you render the TextLines, you have no idea of how many you&#039;re going to end up with. Once you have them all there you&#039;d have to go back and lay them out differently to auto balance.

&lt;blockquote&gt;straddle heads&lt;/blockquote&gt;
This could be accomplished with a TextContainer that spans the length of the columns along the top.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Benny,</p>
<blockquote><p>content editing</p></blockquote>
<p>Editing is a doozy. I&#8217;ll have more of an explanation later, but it&#8217;s probably not going to be in 1.0.</p>
<blockquote><p>columns that can be viewed per page</p></blockquote>
<p>Can you elaborate on this? A paginating textfield? Interesting.</p>
<blockquote><p>columns that can be balanced</p></blockquote>
<p>This requires a second layout pass, which I&#8217;ve been considering adding&#8230; basically, before you render the TextLines, you have no idea of how many you&#8217;re going to end up with. Once you have them all there you&#8217;d have to go back and lay them out differently to auto balance.</p>
<blockquote><p>straddle heads</p></blockquote>
<p>This could be accomplished with a TextContainer that spans the length of the columns along the top.</p>
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		<title>By: Benny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 11:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many thanks for this great project. I am really exited about it so for. 
I&#039;ll be watching it closely and maybe (/hopefully) be able to contribute to it in the future.

My wish list (besides lists and floats you already working on):

- content editing, 
- columns that can be (optionally) viewed per page and (optionally) can be balanced,
- straddle heads = all column spanning (sub)heading


Best regards,
Benny</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks for this great project. I am really exited about it so for.<br />
I&#8217;ll be watching it closely and maybe (/hopefully) be able to contribute to it in the future.</p>
<p>My wish list (besides lists and floats you already working on):</p>
<p>- content editing,<br />
- columns that can be (optionally) viewed per page and (optionally) can be balanced,<br />
- straddle heads = all column spanning (sub)heading</p>
<p>Best regards,<br />
Benny</p>
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